Old 03-30-2013, 09:49 PM   #1
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Default High Sun...in March...In Wisconsin

Just wondering if it's worth appealing. I know the shadow is big, but that's because the blister on these things is ridiculous, and flat, making for some major shadowage. Is it worth the time to appeal or is it a lost cause?

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Old 03-30-2013, 11:24 PM   #2
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It's the lack of light on the trucks. And, remember, the rejection is "Poor Lighting..." yada, yada, yada. It's not High Sun, but it is Poor Lighting.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:48 AM   #3
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"Poor angle in relation to the sun" is more like it. The sun at that time of the day is good, but the angle of the sun on the train isn't (or the angle at which you took this shot isn't).
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Gotcha! Thanks guys, will just have to wait for another nice lashup...perhaps an hour or two earlier...
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Would have been fine with a more head on angle. In GA though we already have a good two-three hours of high sun
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The sun is too high to see the trucks and you can see the lack of light on the side of the bridge.
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The sun is too high to see the trucks and you can see the lack of light on the side of the bridge.
False. The sun is not too high, it's just more direct with the nose of the loco. Look how short the ladder rung shadows are on the nose.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:56 AM   #8
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I like your photo and I think it may be salvageable from the "poor" lighting. A quick trip thru PhotoShop and I came up with this version:
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It's also unlevel.
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False. The sun is not too high, it's just more direct with the nose of the loco. Look how short the ladder rung shadows are on the nose.
Sure Jim, and look at everything else including the plow and the radiator vents.

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Really, look no further than the shadow on the side of the rails.

If you can see a shadow on the sides of the rails, then the sun is too high, or the angle is wrong.

If the angle is wrong you can move, but if the sun is too high, you are screwed.
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So you went through all that trouble to disprove your own point?
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IN RP-rejection speak, they really need to get rid of the High Sun rejection. We're here arguing whether or not there was high sun in this shot when clearly the lighting is poor in regards to RP acceptance. So in other words, it doesn't matter in the sun angle was too high or not.
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The sun wasn't too high, the angle was wrong. Jim said it, and you backed him up in an attempt to prove him wrong.. lol

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Really, look no further than the shadow on the side of the rails.

If you can see a shadow on the sides of the rails, then the sun is too high, or the angle is wrong.
Right, the angle is wrong, just as I stated in my first post.

Wrong, it is not high sun, just as I stated in my second post.

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...Wrong, it is not high sun.
Ya it is.
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Wow Jim, I am duly impressed in deed.

How on Earth did you get Gene Wilder to look at this thread?

I would have thought him way too busy to involve himself in anything this urbane.

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I don't know, HG. I see Gene Wilder all the time on Facebook.
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