Old 08-04-2009, 05:35 PM   #1
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So there doesn't seem to be any problem with the techinical qualities of it....

Does this really have such poor esthetic qulaities?

OK it could be argued the silhouette is rather distant and hidden by the darkness of the land, but it doesn't seem all that different from many other outdoor nightshots or silhouettes.

Is this really a case of "simply not the type of material we are wishing to publish."?
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:37 PM   #2
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Uhhhhhhh, where is the train? That's why you got a PEQ, you pulled this off wrong.

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Old 08-04-2009, 07:00 PM   #3
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I could see the train straight away,and I could tell that it was a 175 but I feel that it's lost against the foreground darkness.What a wonderful shot this would be if it were a train of 9 or 10 coaches with their lights on.
I actually like it but it's not my decision I'm afraid.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:42 PM   #4
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Is this really a case of "simply not the type of material we are wishing to publish."?
If this were sunsetpics.net, you'd have a keeper. Unfortunately, without at least "three points of light," you're not going to convince anyone this is a railroad photo. Excellent picture of a sunset, though!
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For a minute, I thought the train was a large log. I do like this and it is a beautiful photograph, but not for RP. As said, it would have been nice to see some lights! Even a headlight!
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This is about the limit of what you can get away with for these kinds of shots:
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And then you can expect this:
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The rejected shot has alot more train in it than the accepted one, you can actually tell what type of train it is, and i can even make out that its in the Blue green Arriva Trains scheme. I think its just a matter of which screener you got.
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The rejected shot has alot more train in it than the accepted one, you can actually tell what type of train it is, and i can even make out that its in the Blue green Arriva Trains scheme. I think its just a matter of which screener you got.
I don't even see a train in the rejected shot. At least I can see the headlights of the train in the accepted one. Where is the train in the rejected one? I see what appears to be the silhouette of a wall at the water line. Is that the train?
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Depends on what kind of monitor you are using i guess, on my CRT id probably see a black blob, but if i tilt my laptop screen the right way i can see it quite clearly, paint scheme and all. Mabye all this shot needs is some shadow highlighting?
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Depends on what kind of monitor you are using i guess, on my CRT id probably see a black blob, but if i tilt my laptop screen the right way i can see it quite clearly, paint scheme and all. Mabye all this shot needs is some shadow highlighting?
Wow! Really! I have four monitors (all LCD's), including a brand new high end calibrated one, and a laptop, and all I can see is something that looks like a wall at the water line.

It appears the standard is: 3 points of light, or a very distinct locomotive silhouette. This one doesn't seem to fit either and I'd guess shadow and highlight work isn't going to get it in. It's a great sunset though!
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Depends on what kind of monitor you are using i guess, on my CRT id probably see a black blob, but if i tilt my laptop screen the right way i can see it quite clearly, paint scheme and all. Mabye all this shot needs is some shadow highlighting?
Hmm...I'm looking at it on my bright monitor, too...and I still see nothing more than a silhouette. You must have that monitor REALLY jacked up bright!
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Hmm...I'm looking at it on my bright monitor, too...and I still see nothing more than a silhouette. You must have that monitor REALLY jacked up bright!
Could be why im getting all these underexposed rejections. But actually i only have it on 25% brightness, but it is a glossy screen, not great for editing but atleast looks better than the CRT. If i tilt the screen towards me i can see details, if you take it into PS and do a little shadow highlight you can see the same probably.
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Could be why im getting all these underexposed rejections. But actually i only have it on 25% brightness, but it is a glossy screen, if you take it into PS and do a little shadow highlight you can see the same probably.
With LCD Monitors you need to keep it's the same angle or you're processing will be all over the place, set it where the photo's look right and keep it there. Same for laptops!

Needs some shadow lighting? But will the shot fall apart?
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