Old 05-07-2012, 05:23 PM   #1
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How could I have composed this in a manner that the screeners would like?

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Old 05-07-2012, 05:58 PM   #2
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I like the idea but it seems as if something is missing, but I can't put my finger on it. I'm sorry that doesn't help but maybe the others can assist!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:01 PM   #3
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Not sure I should be teaching.... But I think your to heavy on the right side of the frame. Maybe next time stand in the middle of the road, (traffic permitting) so it adds a little balance to the shot.

You could frame it up using the signal box on left, road sign on right, painted road crossing symbol on the bottom, less sky and then (whew) have a train through the upper third.

Also maybe get a train coming the other way so as to avoid a potential back-lit or bad angle rejection.

Or, I have no idea.
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Not sure I should be teaching.... But I think your to heavy on the right side of the frame. Maybe next time stand in the middle of the road, (traffic permitting) so it adds a little balance to the shot.

You could frame it up using the signal box on left, road sign on right, painted road crossing symbol on the bottom, less sky and then (whew) have a train through the upper third.

Also maybe get a train coming the other way so as to avoid a potential back-lit or bad angle rejection.

Or, I have no idea.
I do have this but it was rejected for foreground clutter... go figure!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...57&key=5341932
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:37 PM   #5
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First rejection, the train is centered left to right leaving entirely too much dead space on the left side of the frame. You could try to crop this one more vertically, but I don't kno what that gets you with this framing. To do that right, you'd probably have to cut off the sign, which you shouldn't want to do, and part of the R/R on the road, which you also shouldn't want to do. This might be a case of reshooting vertically and positioning yourself better so you don't have to lose those elements.
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initial thought is that sign is too close to edge of frame. nice otherwise.
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I do have this but it was rejected for foreground clutter... go figure!

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Not in the foreground, but the pole line clutter sticking up off the roof of the locomotive is distracting. Other than that, I think that's a great image.

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The blur shot may have been fine had the train been going the other way. As it is, a lot of the weight is on the right. Whether RP would accept a frame where the nose is close to the signal box, or whether they would kick it for obstruction, I don't know.

It would work better with more on the right.
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These were accepted today - do you have something more along these lines?

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I'm inclined to agree with Janusz on the image being a little heavy on the right but that photo - both images, have way too much going for them to find enough fault to reject in my opinion. Course, I may have not have accepted other photos that were accepted today as being among the "Best Railroad Photos on the 'Net."

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I do have this but it was rejected for foreground clutter... go figure!

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I think it is the bushes on the left.

It is a good idea, too bad the left side is cut off at that crossing.

The saturation is a little "hot" too.

Overall, I like the shot.
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How could I have composed this in a manner that the screeners would like?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...95&key=2713629

Let the teaching begin..... Thanks!
I think the bush, the signal control box and all the empty space on the left is the issue - course you had to put that in to get the RR Xing on the roadway.

Perhaps find another grade crossing?

Also as an FYI, Minneola Road is 61.9 track miles west of Bagdad.

Bagdad is a ways east of Ludlow on the eastside of Ash Hill.
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I think the bush, the signal control box and all the empty space on the left is the issue - course you had to put that in to get the RR Xing on the roadway.

Perhaps find another grade crossing?

Also as an FYI, Minneola Road is 61.9 track miles west of Bagdad.

Bagdad is a ways east of Ludlow on the eastside of Ash Hill.
Oops, my bad. I should have put Newberry Springs. Maybe I'll try a vertical crop or sumpin'. Thanks for all the replies!!
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Oops, my bad. I should have put Newberry Springs. Maybe I'll try a vertical crop or sumpin'. Thanks for all the replies!!
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This is cool:
http://www.massartimages.com/Trains/...8769&k=84BxmRM
Very different, I like it a lot.


As a side note, I just went searching through your RP shots. You have some nice stuff, especially from Tehachapi. One question though: Why the change in image quality. The first shot is tack-sharp and really pleasing to look at. The second has more image quality issues. Did you change cameras? (Both are nice shots though!).

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I don't remember. I might have had a different lens on.
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As a side note, I just went searching through your RP shots. You have some nice stuff, especially from Tehachapi. One question though: Why the change in image quality. The first shot is tack-sharp and really pleasing to look at. The second has more image quality issues. Did you change cameras? (Both are nice shots though!).
The ISO settings for those 2 shots are different. The first shot is at ISO 400 while the second shot is at ISO 800. Looks like an oopsie on the ISO setting.
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