Old 11-12-2009, 05:08 PM   #1
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Any suggestions for these? Both are rejected for being backlit. Actually, the mid-afternoon sun was behind and to my left. The area is a valley with large trees. On the brightest, sunny days, the area is shaded giving the appearance bright, washed out sky (it was actually a clear, blue sky.)



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Old 11-12-2009, 05:11 PM   #2
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You should find a new place to shoot then, unless you can get elevation and shoot the entire valley.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:49 PM   #3
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No hope for any of these. The sun must be directly behind you. In your first shot, the sun is somewhat behind you, but favoring the left side, thus giving the image a "backlit" appearance.

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The second setup could make for a cool night shot, though . . .
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No hope for any of these. The sun must be directly behind you.
I just want to add to what Chase said, "...for this type of shot." The RP screeners prefer basic wedge and head on shots like these to be near-to-perfectly lit. And aside from the cropping and lighting issues on the second one, the image quality is lacking. It's either out of focus or you picked up some heat distortion. There's also a headlight flair just to the right of the nose.
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I just want to add to what Chase said, "...for this type of shot." The RP screeners prefer basic wedge and head on shots like these to be near-to-perfectly lit. And aside from the cropping and lighting issues on the second one, the image quality is lacking. It's either out of focus or you picked up some heat distortion. There's also a headlight flair just to the right of the nose.
Thanks Jim. That's pretty much what I meant, but I was just a wee bit vague in my original post.

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Old 11-12-2009, 09:48 PM   #7
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Its challenging in the east to find places that are lit to produce a rp.net image that is actually interesting visually at times, especially in the south where railroads are mostly north-south and vegetation management not being one of railroads' priorities, you end up with very tight areas you can shoot, or in the mountains, the sun never in a position where it can "properly" light the train.

Now, if we could get the sun to move where we wanted it, that would be another story. I am sure there will be a version of photoshop in the future that you can "drag and drop" the sun angle to fit your shot after the fact.
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Now, if we could get the sun to move where we wanted it, that would be another story. I am sure there will be a version of photoshop in the future that you can "drag and drop" the sun angle to fit your shot after the fact.
You mean the "shadows" tool?

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You mean the "shadows" tool?
No, something that can take it to a whole new level and actually drag the light, glare, etc to a different angle

The shadow and highlight tool only goes so far
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No, something that can take it to a whole new level and actually drag the light, glare, etc to a different angle

The shadow and highlight tool only goes so far
Photoshop CS 787 Beta 3.5 will have a "Move entire sun" tool.


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