Old 09-25-2009, 08:11 PM   #1
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I would welcome your input on these rejections please:

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The construction crane is very much part of the scene at this location and I was loathe to cut it off halfway - if that's the problem.

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I don't get the bad colour, it looks spot on to me - and I was there!!

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Old 09-25-2009, 11:00 PM   #2
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Not sure about the color - not having seen that equipment in person, I don't know what it's supposed to look like.

Tough scene with the crane there... I'm not sure there's a compositionally pleasing way of incorperating the crane into the shot.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:53 AM   #3
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Hi Eugene, the crane shot, wouldnt a vertical crop work better there? And the colour one, perhaps a bit of contrast or a bit darker to bring the orange out more?
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The color, hard to say. The orange looks well saturated but on the other hand I just looked over the RP shots with Transnet and they all look pretty colorful. Even so, it looks unnatural, it looks like you cooked it with too much saturation.

On the other hand, that ballast has a LOT of pink. It definitely looks off. Consider a comparison to this shot of yours. If the ballast is the same, then the rejected shot has bad color for sure.

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Also, the shot is not sharp, that might be the next reason for rejection.

BTW, in the accepted shot, what is the nature of the structure in the background? It looks like just a wall, without any sort of structure continuing behind, a Potemkin village sort of thing. Is that a decorative end with elements that protrude beyond the main part?
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I've had the "bad color" rejection too. I sent in a picture of an old GP7, 50 yrs old, original paint, several brightly colored re-paint areas. It wasn't bad color. The other trains and scenery around it looked totally normal. IT WAS A 50-YR OLD LOCOMOTIVE.

Your color is just fine. You're just another victim of the photo Nazis.
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Eugene;

The best bit of advice I can give you is to ignore the worst piece of advice that firemanbeetle just gave you. I agree that the crane shot is going to be a pain to crop and keep the crane. Verticl might work. Shooting it again for further away may be your best bet. The second shot's color looks off. None of us were there with you, so you should kow best. But doubtful an appeal of "This is how the scene really looked." will work. I would tweak it in post processig and see what else you come up with.
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I've had the "bad color" rejection too. I sent in a picture of an old GP7, 50 yrs old, original paint, several brightly colored re-paint areas. It wasn't bad color. The other trains and scenery around it looked totally normal. IT WAS A 50-YR OLD LOCOMOTIVE.
You should let us see the shot instead of just describing it. You could have a legitimate complaint, but by not letting us see the photo, it comes across all wrong, esp. with the "photo nazi" crap.
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On the second photo, I boosted the contrast quite a bit and backed off on the brightness and this is how it came out. You may want to try this and hope this works for you.

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I've had the "bad color" rejection too. I sent in a picture of an old GP7, 50 yrs old, original paint, several brightly colored re-paint areas. It wasn't bad color. The other trains and scenery around it looked totally normal. IT WAS A 50-YR OLD LOCOMOTIVE.

Your color is just fine. You're just another victim of the photo Nazis.


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Old 09-27-2009, 07:21 PM   #11
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Points taken gentlemen, thank you.

On the bad colour shot I'll start from scratch and see what I come up with. I've attached the orginal from the camera, no processing whatsoever, except to resize.

For the other shot I'll try and shoot that location again, but I do have another shot taken before the rejected one that might work in a vertical format, so I'll play around with that one.

Janusz, that structure in the background is the front of the workshop building where the class 39's are being built. From the angle I took the shot, I agree it does look quite flat!!

To firemanbeetle - thanks for your comment on the colour, but your "photo nazis" comment was out of line.
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Gee, I look at your picture, it looks off, so I squint, it looks good, so I'd adjust exposure, satisfy the histogram, then the contrast and color will be in line, then level, and your are good to go, I'd think.


And then ignore little screaming nazi weenie's...
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