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Old 05-14-2009, 10:53 PM   #2
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Errr wow of the two shots on the front page, you bring up this one?
A well lit night shot of a graffitied GP, whats wrong with that, other than the graffiti?
Now the other one.....now thats something to discuss.
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You say discuss. You start. WHy do iyou think it should not be in? It does appear noisy in the sky, but that could be the way I'm looking at it, the way my computer sees it or the way he processed it since he shot at 100 ISO with a 50D.
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As far as Steven's shot, when I first saw it, I kinda thought the same thing you did. Except that once you look at it and read the caption, it does tell a story. All you see are red brake lights as the train goes by. The caption hints at the real story, too, that Steven wanted to get around the traffic and set up for a shot. It's actually a great piece of photojjournalism.
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As far as Steven's shot, when I first saw it, I kinda thought the same thing you did. Except that once you look at it and read the caption, it does tell a story. All you see are red brake lights as the train goes by. The caption hints at the real story, too, that Steven wanted to get around the traffic and set up for a shot. It's actually a great piece of photojjournalism.
Joe, I 100% agree. Now, if this was a SD60 or something, I would disagree! To the OP, what is your problem with the pics? RP does not determine whom clicks on what photo and how many folk click on it.
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You say discuss. You start. WHy do iyou think it should not be in? It does appear noisy in the sky, but that could be the way I'm looking at it, the way my computer sees it or the way he processed it since he shot at 100 ISO with a 50D.
Yeah, something is really funky with the sky. It's well beyond "normal" noise. It's too bad, because the subject is really colorful and interesting. But the funky sky is way too distracting.
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Yeah, something is really funky with the sky. It's well beyond "normal" noise. It's too bad, because the subject is really colorful and interesting. But the funky sky is way too distracting.
high ISO noise that I can see from the thumbnail before I even click on it, wow...

I know its a night shot and all, but holy cow
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Jim;

I do see it more now than I first did. Is it in the post processing, you think? I
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high ISO noise that I can see from the thumbnail before I even click on it, wow...

I know its a night shot and all, but holy cow
Something else going on. He shot it at 100 ISO with a 50D.
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The shot taken whilst sitting in a traffic jam would have been more effective if the photographer was out of the car. At least then we would not have seen all of the streak marks on the windscreen. I would have to disagree that it is a great piece of photo journalism.
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The shot taken whilst sitting in a traffic jam would have been more effective if the photographer was out of the car.
Except that then we wouldn't get the feel of the traffic jam because the photographer wouldn't be part of it . . .

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Except that then we wouldn't get the feel of the traffic jam because the photographer wouldn't be part of it . . .
Exactly. We obviously get that he was inside the car. That was the whole point behind the shot.
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I understand that but I still feel that the streaks on the windscreen have 'clouded' or ruined the photo.
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I understand that but I still feel that the streaks on the windscreen have 'clouded' or ruined the photo.
And I'm guessing that the original poster felt the graffitti ruined the photo he was referring to . . . . I think the streaks on the windshield are part of what gives Steven's photo its atmosphere - it lets you know what the weather was like.

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If that was taken at ISO 100, there is something seriously wrong with the camera
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:03 AM   #16
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The graffiti pic looks like a lot of JPEG compression to me. Other than that, it's a pretty nice shot.

The other pic...I don't know what to say. If he got out or leaned out the window he at least would have avoided the windshield. I still think it has pretty little aesthetic value.
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Sometimes an interesting subject allows for a little more wiggle room during the screening process.
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Wow...if he had leaned out of the window the rain would have soaked the lens in a millisecond and any shot would be completely ruined. Ever try shooting forward out of a moving car in the rain? I have...it doesn't work well...at all.
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Ah yes, hang out the window, get hit by lightning, and cause a pileup on Highway 70. Sounds like a good idea, eh?!

While shooting the shot it was more of a thing to document it, that I was up there chasing 844... More sentimental value to it than just a chase of mainline steam, I lived out of that car for 3 days, it was my Thunderbird's first 'real' chase and I racked up about 1,300 miles on it total. I wanted to get the wipers in motion to show that it was pouring for the whole trip. I wish I could have included the speedometer too, but ya'll don't need to see I have a check engine light and low wiper fluid.

Like others have already said, and the people who've commented it said... It shows the viewers that weren't schlepping it through traffic and dealing with non-stop rain (a homeowner in the FRC recorded 4" of rain just that day). I didn't see the train for 45 minutes after shooting this shot:

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because of the traffic, until that little peek in the shot of question, and after that shot I didn't see it for another hour until it was stopped taking water at Keddie while I drove by the 200+ foamers there.

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When shots are 'brought to the table' on forums like this one, people are bound to comment.
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How did this get on the front page? A lot of people like you clicked on it then posted it in a forum incorrectly so that it was clicked on even more.
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Errr wow of the two shots on the front page, you bring up this one?
A well lit night shot of a graffitied GP, whats wrong with that, other than the graffiti?
Now the other one.....now thats something to discuss.
Edit: or on the front page earlier
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Do you want to discuss how the rain on the window indicated that it was raining outside visually or how this steam locomotive created such a frenzy that it caused a traffic jam on a normal free flowing road? Also, incorrectly posted as a link instead of a thumbnail.
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I understand that but I still feel that the streaks on the windscreen have 'clouded' or ruined the photo.
Heres a bunch more of ruined through the window shots. http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?category=3
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