Old 12-31-2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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I spent today along CSX's hudson river line, take a look at this shot below. Would trains in between the gates and maybe past the gate be rp worthy or would that be a bad shot? I'm aware that the shot below is dark (it was early morning) and unlevel and needs cropping
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:19 AM   #2
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I'm not seeing alot of potential for awesomeness in that spot.

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a) going to be hard to get rid of the overhead lines
b) it looks like you are shooting toward the south - you will always have issues with getting the light the way you want it, either on the nose (important for RP) or on the facing wall of the structure
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great... as most of my day consisted of shots like that, very few others have any potential, and my videos came out horrible, what a waste of a day. Most of the shots were like the first one below, what about the other 2? The 2nd was in early morning light before the sun was fully out and the last one the train is in a small sun spot on the engine.





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b) it looks like you are shooting toward the south - you will always have issues with getting the light the way you want it, either on the nose (important for RP) or on the facing wall of the structure
Except in the very early morning hours during May, June and July. File this location away as a come back in summer spot.

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yes i was shooting south as it was a northbound train, is there any shots that are salvagable? I'd hate to have a memory card of useless shots, but southbound trains just didn't come at the right time
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Except in the very early morning hours during May, June and July. File this location away as a come back in summer spot.

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Yeah. Also, for some reason I only saw the first image, I see the other two now. Second, blah wedgie, don't see anything in the surroundings of interest. Third, lots of potential, I like a vertical of a train going under a bridge. Especially if the angle is a bit SW of S.
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a bit of SW of S? not sure what you mean, heres a quick vertical crop.

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The only way the third photo will work is if you have one where the bridge above the train is not awkwardly cut off. The two you posted of that angle have too much ground and not enough sky.

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out of luck there, all of them have the bridge cut to some extent and a later shot with the whole bridge was dark as clouds started coming in and the sun had gone down EDIT: i have shots of that train with the whole bridge, but it just wasn't in that sunny spot.

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never got this rejection before, but i dont think its fixable, if anyone thinks it is share your input.
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Your image is too wide, almost a 16:9 ratio, RP doesnt like that. Add some more tree and sky on the top.
Even then i doubt it will make it, its GEVOspam with no light. Seems like you were out shooting a bit too early, no light at this spot at that hour.
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never got this rejection before, but i dont think its fixable, if anyone thinks it is share your input.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=765795&key=0
It's 1024x570, for RP tastes, too long and thin. If you are 1024 wide you need to be 683 or taller. So you need to crop more from the ends or keep more of the top and bottom from the original.

By SW of S what I mean is that I hope the line is not going due north/south but is angled so that you can work with the sun easier, on northbounds but also on southbounds as you seem to be pressed tight against the ridge to the west of the river. I said SW of S but really SE of S would be good too.
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I'm not 100% sure if this helps, but it's more of a philosophical point I want to make to you... if you went out and had fun shooting trains, it's not a wasted day. I have lots of days with nothing to upload on this site (including trekking to some pretty exotic locations). Sure, I'd have loved to have gotten a shot or two for here, but I was railfanning 30 years before this site existed and I was having a damn fun time the whole time. If you had fun, it was a good day. And if you didn't have fun, it was actually a build up for one of the days that you will have fun.
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I had fun other than the biting cold, one of my main goals is to get more stuff on rp. @ JRMDC the line does run north/south and the sun was great, except there was nothing but northbound trains, and by the time southbounds came the sun went behind the clouds of a coming storm and then later behind the ridge. Thats the other issue with this line, they run nothing but GEVOs, there was one EMD engine but the lighting was bad for the shots.
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Here is 1 other shot i'm thinking about trying, this was taken quite a while ago with my old P&S, the entire line is brush covered so it didn't matter where i went for that.

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I spent today along CSX's hudson river line, take a look at this shot below. Would trains in between the gates and maybe past the gate be rp worthy or would that be a bad shot? I'm aware that the shot below is dark (it was early morning) and unlevel and needs cropping
I know its tough when you are first starting in this hobby to harshly criticize your own work but it is almost necessary in order to progress. Look at the sentence in bold. The phrase "needs cropping" indicates that you don't see this as a throw-away shot and still see potential for it. My question is why? The major killer for me are the gates blocking the locomotives. The composition does not work which should be top priority when deciding whether to submit or save for your personal collection. That being said, the location has a lot of potential. Most places usually do if you look hard enough.

First, learn the light. You will only get decent lighting in the early morning hours during the longest days of the year (May to August) when the sun is still rising in the Northeast. The mountains may cause the window of good light (where at least half the nose is lit) to June and early July only but I could be wrong. Second, work on the composition. See the photo I've attached for an alternate and better placement of the train. The white line is where I would suggest putting the locomotive and the red line is where I would crop.
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i have shots lined up as you drew out in the picture, but the sun angle was bad, the engine had plenty of light but the nose was dark.
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Here is 1 other shot i'm thinking about trying, this was taken quite a while ago with my old P&S, the entire line is brush covered so it didn't matter where i went for that.

Not too bad. I think there is just a bit too much brush though, which would result in the obstructing foreground clutter rejection.

Not sure though, I do like the shot and the fact the ROW is covered in weeds kind of adds a nice touch.

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Here is 1 other shot i'm thinking about trying, this was taken quite a while ago with my old P&S, the entire line is brush covered so it didn't matter where i went for that.
Foreground clutter. And I the usual response is usually "But thats what the line looks like." I know, the Black River & Western looks like that most of the year too. So how do you get a shot that has that "shortline feel" without having foreground clutter. Well, I'm not too familiar with that particular line [yet ] but you can find a long straightaway and get a more head on angle with the brush emphasized in a telephoto or get height and minimize the amount amount of brush blocking the trucks and locomotive.

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think its worth uploading or no? Interesting idea andrew, if i can ever catch them working again i'd have to try that.
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A screener just told you it would be rejected for foreground clutter, so I'd following his advice and not bother uploading it.

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think its worth uploading or no? Interesting idea andrew, if i can ever catch them working again i'd have to try that.
No, because it would obviously get rejected for foreground clutter as I stated. You're what, 13? I think you'll catch them again unless you are moving soon. I used to think the same way and wouldn't you know it once I got my license I actually got sick of catching locals I thought I'd never see.
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hmm didn't notice he was a screener, i'm 16 and chasing this railroad is something unique as for the longest time it wasn't active at all.
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made a neat discovery today, i was looking through my pictures and found 2 union pacific engines running elephant style on CSX's river line, but its a cloudy shot, neat discovery though
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