Repeated Submissions

Freericks · 02-27-2023, 03:33 PM

Not calling anyone out here (although I realize by simply posting I am really calling them out, there's just not other way to do this, unfortunately).

That being said, I think if you're posting older shots, it's really worth it to take a moment and see if you posted that shot already. I'm so much better at editing scans now than I used to be, and half the time I rework a scan I discover, "Shoot, I already shared that one."

B7BBQ · 02-27-2023, 06:42 PM

I have noticed that in the member dashboard, there's a link labeled 'Re-Submit Photos' that states you can 're-upload improved scans or versions of photos already in the database.'

I've never actually used that feature, though.

Freericks · 02-27-2023, 07:03 PM

I have used that a hundred times at least. I am referring to something different though, such as submitting the same photo as a brand new submission five years after you previously submitted it and had it accepted.

Joe the Photog · 02-27-2023, 08:58 PM

I have been gulty of doing that a few times. I try to remember to search for the road number rach tim before I load something. I like Flickr's "camera roll" that lets you go back to the date of the photograph. But then sometimes EXIF data can get stripped off the photo. I wish we could delete our own shots here when we find duplicates

KevinM · 02-28-2023, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Freericks

I have used that a hundred times at least. I am referring to something different though, such as submitting the same photo as a brand new submission five years after you previously submitted it and had it accepted.

Yeah, me too. I have resubmitted a lot of shots over the years as I got better at editing. Unfortunately, the process I use for RP (which includes a thorough documentation of every edit step) is a lot more labor-intensive than the process I use for Flickr. So, when I discover an old edit that sucks....and there are a lot of them....it is far easier for me to fix on Flickr. Not sure why I feel the need to go back and fix all of these old edits, but I guess once you feel you've gotten better at things, you don't want everyone to know that you once sucked at it.

KevinM · 02-28-2023, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Freericks

I think if you're posting older shots, it's really worth it to take a moment and see if you posted that shot already.

Been there, done that, got the tee shirt....once, anyway. With roughly 2,500 photos on this site, I have exactly one set of duplicates. Once I realized the mistake, the latest edition had already garnered over 1,000 views and rather than ask Admins to delete it, I just said "screw it." They're out there. Fortunately, it is not a great use of anyone's time to find them, so sleeping dogs will lie.

JimThias · 02-28-2023, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinM

Yeah, me too. I have resubmitted a lot of shots over the years as I got better at editing. Unfortunately, the process I use for RP (which includes a thorough documentation of every edit step) is a lot more labor-intensive than the process I use for Flickr. So, when I discover an old edit that sucks....and there are a lot of them....it is far easier for me to fix on Flickr. Not sure why I feel the need to go back and fix all of these old edits, but I guess once you feel you've gotten better at things, you don't want everyone to know that you once sucked at it.

I've had quite a few head scratchers myself, followed by, "What the hell was I thinking?!" This more often than not has to do with how I originally cropped the image. Here's a good example:

PhotoID: 256342
Photograph © Jim Thias

Reprocessed a year ago, with a wider crop showing the tree with fall color glowing in the morning sun, along with better color in the sky:

https://flic.kr/p/2mMQ7TD

Freericks · 03-01-2023, 02:39 PM

Totally agree with you guys on the editing getting better and smarter as we age. What I can't fix is the bone-headed in camera editing (framing) I did in the past. But that's just a nettle I can't get to.

Decapod401 · 03-01-2023, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Freericks

Not calling anyone out here (although I realize by simply posting I am really calling them out, there's just not other way to do this, unfortunately).

That being said, I think if you're posting older shots, it's really worth it to take a moment and see if you posted that shot already. I'm so much better at editing scans now than I used to be, and half the time I rework a scan I discover, "Shoot, I already shared that one."

I also have reworked earlier scans, but I don't even bother updating the previous submission, because very few people are looking at something that I posted five years ago. I had one image that had been on the site for several years when I came across a second slide of the same the same subject. I thought that the processing was better, so I made a new submission. By the time that I checked to see if it was accepted, JMF had placed it in an album calling out duplicate submissions! I swear that he was obsessed with RP and had way too much time on his hands.

Freericks · 03-02-2023, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Decapod401

I also have reworked earlier scans, but I don't even bother updating the previous submission, because very few people are looking at something that I posted five years ago. I had one image that had been on the site for several years when I came across a second slide of the same the same subject. I thought that the processing was better, so I made a new submission. By the time that I checked to see if it was accepted, JMF had placed it in an album calling out duplicate submissions! I swear that he was obsessed with RP and had way too much time on his hands.

You actually hit the issue on the head, I'll be honest. It's not that I care what others do. It's that I'm frustrated that a much better edit is going to get zero view (or a dozen in a year). Seeing someone else get away with it I want to tattle (not that I have, just wanna).

KevinM · 03-02-2023, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Freericks

It's that I'm frustrated that a much better edit is going to get zero view (or a dozen in a year).

And that is the downside to spending time on re-edits here. The picture is so deeply buried in the pile that virtually no one will look at it.

That said, the one upside is that if the person who sees it is a magazine or calendar editor, shopping for images.....and I can assure you from personal experience, THEY DO THAT HERE, that new edit just might mean the difference between your shot getting the exposure (and the cash prize) vs. someone else's.

RobJor · 03-08-2023, 04:32 PM

Repeat of what I assume is quality image doesn't bother me much even if I were to remember. Today's audience is different than 5-10 years ago so will be new to them.

What bugs me a lot more is the daily fare of the repeat images. The same train at A, at B at C, at D. Just to be sure I looked at yesterdays 3/7 and I noted 3 examples when I quit looking. Then next is a different train in roughly the same location. The third thing is when I see roughly the same thing repeated day after day.

I am not talking about special excursions, steam etc, just run of the mill. I know we can just bypass these but I think filling up the daily quota with repeats is a turn-off.

Bob Jordan

KevinM · 03-08-2023, 11:53 PM

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What bugs me a lot more is the daily fare of the repeat images. The same train at A, at B at C, at D. Just to be sure I looked at yesterdays 3/7 and I noted 3 examples when I quit looking. Then next is a different train in roughly the same location. The third thing is when I see roughly the same thing repeated day after day.

Bob Jordan

I also get sick of repeat captions. Some folks will take 15 photos of a particular train or event.....and use the same, worn-out caption, 15 flippin' times.

TedG · 03-09-2023, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinM

I also get sick of repeat captions. Some folks will take 15 photos of a particular train or event.....and use the same, worn-out caption, 15 flippin' times.

Hmmph. That doesn't bother me at all.

[He's lying. Truth is...it keeps him up at night. So much so that he's resorted to purchasing sleep-inducing pills from the former governor of Arkansas.
-Ed.]

vcode455 · 03-18-2023, 02:52 PM

Wasn't there an album at one time that would call out duplicate shots? Jean was his name??? Pulled all his images a while ago.....

B7BBQ · 03-18-2023, 04:10 PM

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Wasn't there an album at one time that would call out duplicate shots? Jean was his name??? Pulled all his images a while ago.....

I don't remember that one, but I feel like the same guy had another album calling out horizon unlevel shots

Mberry · 03-19-2023, 12:35 AM

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Wasn't there an album at one time that would call out duplicate shots? Jean was his name??? Pulled all his images a while ago.....

Yes, Jean-Marc Frybourg.

Decapod401 · 03-19-2023, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vcode455

Wasn't there an album at one time that would call out duplicate shots? Jean was his name??? Pulled all his images a while ago.....

That was the JMF that I referred to in my comment.

Decapod401 · 03-19-2023, 01:09 AM

Duplicate entry.

vcode455 · 03-21-2023, 01:44 AM

Ooops, missed that Doug.....

charlesstookey · 03-24-2023, 11:33 PM

I am guilty of accidentally posting duplicate pictures. My method of preventing this was flawed but I believe I have corrected the problem. Now I just have to figure out how to delete the dupes.

Freericks · 03-25-2023, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by charlesstookey

I am guilty of accidentally posting duplicate pictures. My method of preventing this was flawed but I believe I have corrected the problem. Now I just have to figure out how to delete the dupes.

Yeah, I found one where I, the voice against this all, did the same.

JimThias · 03-31-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Freericks

Totally agree with you guys on the editing getting better and smarter as we age. What I can't fix is the bone-headed in camera editing (framing) I did in the past. But that's just a nettle I can't get to.

I have quite a few shots from 10-15 years ago that I shot vertically that I'm now kicking myself over. Shooting horizontally would have resulted in a much better representation of the scene.

JimThias · 03-31-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TedG

Hmmph. That doesn't bother me at all.

[He's lying. Truth is...it keeps him up at night. So much so that he's resorted to purchasing sleep-inducing pills from the former governor of Arkansas.
-Ed.]

..........

Coloradorailphotographer · 04-07-2023, 02:36 PM

I know I've done this erroneously and when I discovered it I immediately contacted the administration and we removed the file. I keep a folder of all submissions and when doing an older capture I go through each based on road and location. Sometimes however I frequent the same location and if it's too close I'll reject the attempt to submit. Thanks again for the opportunity to share with you all.